Hi Five
Oakers,
I have a few
things I want to share with you.
#1 - Get a recap of the service
with highlights of our prayers, readings and songs here.
#2 - Here are the comments we received
back from the cards we send first-time guests:
- 9/16 - I plan to return and check out Five Oaks. I am looking for a Bible-based
church where I can grow my faith and understanding and be ‘plugged in’ to help
others with their faith.
- 10/22 - It is
rare to find a congregation so warm toward visitors. Thanks for making
our family feel so welcome!
#3 - Here are your comments from
the Communication Cards:
- Thank you Pastor Henry for that
profound message.
- Beautiful young ladies singing –
angel voices.
- Thank you for this series.
Perfect timing.
- Good message Henry.
- Great message today!
- Wow Henry, you did a great job
with this tough topic. You clearly spoke the truth in love. Thanks for your
passion and your courage to teach the truth in scripture.
- Great worship, Justin! Loved
hearing the girl’s voices – too beautiful! Great message, Henry! Thanks. [I agree the ladies did an incredible job on the songs they led.]
- Nice job today Pastor Henry on a
“touchy” subject. One point to say we all have a homosexual person in our lives
may overstate the numbers 2-3%? However we all certainly have sexually immoral
people in our lives – including ourselves. [I agree with your stats and love your
attitude. I still think my point stands. Most people know 200 plus people (relatives, co-workers, friends, neighbors, church associations, etc). That’s
4-6 people who are gay, and let's say less than half have come out. That's 1-2 people. Maybe my math or facts are wrong. I was talking to one of our board members
this week and he counted his previous boss, a neighbor couple and a relative. At least that's what most people tell me and it's my experience.]
- Loved the enthusiasm the worship
team has this morning!
- Thank you for teaching the truth.
Praise God!
- Thanks for “speaking the truth in
love” – Eph. 4:15
- Great sermon – tough topic. You
handled it well.
- Thanks for the new song and
passionate leadership on song. Nice job Hannah, you have grown so much. Love
seeing you up there. Great, great message Henry. Thank you.
- Crank up the volume. Psalm
100:1-2. We need to come before the Lord in joyful worship.
- We love Justin and we love
worship! It seems however, that the music has been really loud. It is
distracting for worship. Ear plugs would be equally distracting. Is there a
better solution? Also, Henry, thank you for your courage and truth. [See above
comment…I think they’re in your small group! :-) We do get some variation
depending on the sound tech who’s on duty, and Mark does tend to go a little
louder, in my experience. It is an art and not a science. I didn't sense it was too loud this week. But I mean it when I say thank you for the
comment, and we’ll keep trying to strike the right balance. Speaking frankly, when we
get lots of comments one way or the other, it’s one of the ways we know how
we’re doing, so keep them coming.]
- I have many “yeah buts” so I will
e-mail you.
- Henry, thank you for proclaiming
the truth in a loving and respectful way. Such a difficult
topic at this time. So spot on and it gives us a great foundation to talk to
our friends and family about. Well done.
- I really appreciate the music
ministry of the young lady that sang the first song during the response time.
What a beautiful gift of her voice.
- Thanks for speaking clearly on a
tough subject.
- Very nice job on a very intense
topic!
- Well done! Loved the series!
- I’ve been looking forward to this
message for a week! Very well, rounded message.
- Henry, thank you for tackling a
difficult issue with God’s word. I am sure you will take some flack – this is
to be expected when we stand up for God’s absolute truth. Please know that [we]
are encouraged to be in a body, led by a pastor that compassionately speaks the
truth.
- It would be very helpful to be
given the starting verse (not the chapter) so the congregation can get there
before you start reading. [Duly noted. Now, will I remember?]
- Thank you for another excellent
lesson from God’s word!
- Such an important topic! Well
done!
- Timely message, Henry. Thank
you!
- The worship was really great
today!
- Just over a year ago, I
identified as bisexual. …The closer I’ve come to God, the further I move away
from my old identity. I no longer identify as bi. Thank you for explaining what
happened.
#4- Link here for a good cartoon from the New Yorker that addresses Genesis 2:24 in an interesting and roundabout way.
#5 - Off the cutting room floor.
- We give up the right to speak into the issue
of gay marriage from a biblical standpoint if believe for ourselves that God is
in the business of making us happy in the way we want to be made happy. In
other words, if I were to justify any of my sins on the grounds that I deserve
to be happy or God just wants me to be happy, I have no moral authority to
speak to any issue.
- Carrying on a dialogue on this issue is so
hard because our biblical convictions about gay sex are perceived as a personal
attack by those who define their identity by their sexuality. It would be
similar, I think, to someone being philosophically convinced that believing in
God is stupid and delusional and then trying to convince me that they don’t
think I’m worthless. It’s a huge dilemma for communication. I know there are
ways to break through this and many do, but I’m not sure most Christians get
how complex this is. I know I didn’t until recently.
- I have a cousin who grew up next door to me
who was openly gay since the mid-70’s. I was visiting him in the hospital after
his violent partner had beat him up pretty severely. This was Miami in the late
1970’s or early 80’s, not sure, but the whole Anita Bryant thing was going on.
One of her representatives was on TV debating someone regarding sexual
orientation discrimination laws. We stopped to listen in the hospital room and
this guy (a supposed Christian) kept calling homosexuals “the crazies.” Not one
of the finer moments in this ongoing debate. I was embarrassed as a fellow
believer and quite apologetic to my cousin. Fortunately, my cousin and I have a
good relationship to this day.
- Being transformed by the Spirit and
experiencing healing doesn’t mean a homosexual will become a heterosexual. And
since there will be no marriage in heaven, according to Jesus, it seems that
heterosexual isn’t the final goal to begin with.
- When someone who is not a Christ-follower
asks you what your position is on homosexuality, don’t lead off with a direct
answer to the question. It doesn’t work well. I know this through personal experience.
I’m still working on finding a better way and haven’t found it.
- Our church has people in it who struggle with
same-sex attraction. Some of them have confided in me. The ones I know are
married and have kids. They aren’t looking for loopholes on this issue. They
stand strong on biblical convictions. They appreciate it when I preach the
truth, with compassion. They are warriors in the battle for personal holiness.
They have learned some incredible lessons about this battle and approach it
with a depth and awareness most believers never dream of. They could teach the
church (i.e., God’s people) valuable lessons. But I’m not sure they feel it’s
safe to share their journey with most believers because they know how we talk
about gay people, same-sex attraction and other related issues when we don’t
know someone who struggles with that is in our presence. With a name like
Williams and accent-free English, it’s amazing the conversations I “overheard”
in high school in a city that was 50% Hispanic at the time.
#6 - Here’s the message in 10 tweets on
Genesis 2:18-25 entitled “One Flesh.”
- Our
interpretation isn't perfect. If I’m wrong, show me with the Bible. I'm glad to
be corrected if I'm wrong.
- I don't
think I need a sermon introduction to get your attention today. I already said
sex and naked. Do I have your attention?
- Adam was
clearly overjoyed to see this naked woman next to him. The Bible isn’t prudish.
It’s earthy.
- The Bible’s positive expressions
regarding sexual intimacy are always reserved for sexual union within the
context of marriage. Always.
- The Bible’s
positive expressions regarding sexual intimacy are always reserved for sexual
union between a man and woman.
- Gay mar
advocate: “Most people against r not bigots. It’s not helpful when our side
accuses of them of being bigots for what they believe.”
- Many
proponents of gay mar share many sex boundaries & morals w/ Xtians even if
on this they draw the boundaries in a different place.
- Who doesn’t
know someone who is gay that they genuinely like? I mean, genuinely enjoy being
with them & like them. BTW, you're allowed to.
- Studies
arguing the Bible is not against all forms of gay sex haven't done well under
peer review-even many who r gay/lesbian.
- We are all
sexually broken & in need of grace, healing & deep transformation.
#7- Thanks for your prayers for Shawn and Becky Hunt. The service for Gracia was simply beautiful and uplifting. I was so impressed with Eagle Brook Spring Lake Park pastor Tahni Cullen and the church's ministry to the family.
As many of
you noted, this was a tough topic address. Now on to something easier this
coming weekend when we look at Luke 20:20-26 and address how Christians should
vote. No, I’m not kidding, except about it being easier.
God bless
you and thank you for your prayers, Pastor Henry